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Discussion in 'Keeping Turtles Indoors (Aquariums)' started by mibblers, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. mibblers

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    Hi there, first of all great site. Long time follower first time poster.
    My large (dinner plate) sized Krefft turtle started chewing on the end of the hollow log he lives in just a few days ago.
    The turtle has just moved out of a 3ft into a 4ft tank 1 week ago.
    Do turtles get separation anxiety? As he was in 3ft next to my other turtle but in different tank. But since he has moved tanks he is no longer sharing a glass wall between them. The tanks are now on different walls.
     
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    G'day and welcome to AFT, and thank you for the positive comment re our website!

    It's pretty normal for short-necked turtles to chew on driftwood and logs in captivity as well as in the wild.

    Sometimes they eat logs to get certain minerals that they are missing out on in their diet as well as to help settle their stomach. They also eat it because it sometimes has algae or freshwater sponge growing on it and both are very desirable for short-necked turtles.

    For over half an hour I watched a White-throated snapping turtle 'hoe in' (verb (intr, adverb) Australian and New Zealand informal to eat food heartily - Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publisher) to a submerged log in the wild.

    Could you please upload a couple of photos of your Krefft's turtle setup for us?

    No, they don't get separation anxiety. They fare much better on their own than they do with other turtles. Having said that, seeing another turtle in a nearby tank would have helped the turtle if his tank is bare and boring to him. Creating an interesting habitat to explore and forage in helps to prevent boredom which can be a real issue for freshwater turtles in captivity.
     
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    My Flaviemys purvisi can be regularly observed chomping on their driftwood.
     
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    4ft turtle tank as requested. 74b47024897b78f28468c0a089d48f95.jpg 9b8b11e5ba8d5c39c106c509cc7a9d2b.jpg cdbcf2089181743a50d6f5036631fcce.jpg
     
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    G'day mate, there is no easy way to say this, but we recommend that you make some changes to your tank.

    Firstly, your turtle has a disorder/disease known as dysecdysis, which is the inability to have a complete and proper normal shed of its scutes.
    Your turtle has at least 3 layers of dead scutes that should have been shed for the new scutes to replace them. Having layers of unshed scutes can have detrimental consequences as it provides a perfect environment under them for anaerobic bacteria that eat through scutes and shell to take hold and cause shell pitting and shell rot.
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    A number of factors contribute to this ailment. They are: A diet that is high in protein and lacks calcium and other minerals and vitamins. Your turtle isn't receiving enough UVB from artificial lighting, as well as not enough 'dry time' outdoors under natural sunlight which aids in the scute shedding process. You should also remove the pebbles from your tank and replace it with river sand and calgrit. Calgrit provides additional calcium that most store bought turtle foods lack in.

    Below is what a normal shell should look like.
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  6. mibblers

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    Cheers, will head to pet shop in morning and get a new 10% UVB bulb. The turtle gets about 8 to 10 hours dry time at night and spends all day in his tank. He gets put into an outside pond once every couple of weeks. Where is the best place to get calgrit?
     
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    Unfortunately this is a big part of the problem. Your turtle is not getting enough dry time outside during the day under natural sunlight. 8-10 hours dry time at night does absolutely nothing for your turtle. The amount of UVB from an artificial UVB fluorescent tube is not enough to fix this problem, nor is once every couple of weeks in a pond in water.

    Bulbs are useless and fluorescent tubes need to be used as a minimum requirement in an indoor tank setup.
     
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    So you would recommend every day outside in the pond where there are plenty of feeder fish and water snails? It's a big bath tub with mesh cover and big log. I will post a photo in the daylight as well as post a photo of the other turtle.
     
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    That tank is way too small for your turtle too, barely enough room for it to turn around. An outdoor pond would be a better option, but a bathtub isn't big enough either and there's a fair bit to setting up a pond properly, with filtration, escape-proofing, etc. Is that internal filter your only filtration in your tank at present?
     
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    There is a filter at the other end of the tank. The turtle has only moved into this tank in the last few weeks from a smaller tank. The bath tub pond is best and only option at this stage.
     
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    Does the bathtub have a filter? What are the day and night temperatures like where you are at the moment?
     
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    No filter, night time 20°C and up to 35°C during the day.
     
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    The bathtub will not be big enough given the temperature fluctuations outside. The water depth needs to be a minimum of 60-90cm deep at the shallower end in any outdoor enclosure for a turtle to avoid any rapid and drastic temperature fluctuations. A turtle should not be subject to experiencing 4 seasons in a 24 hour period. You'll need to get a proper aquaponics tub/pond or a much larger (6×2×2) aquarium.
     
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