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Discussion in 'Urgent Help Required' started by Amanda punter, May 17, 2017.

  1. Amanda punter

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    My 2 turtles have been together for about 3-4 years, now 1 keeps biting the other on the back of his neck! Why?
     
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    Thanks for your help, I will have to split them or divide the tank some how! They have plenty of room and been together for years, it's just been the last few weeks, she has made a small wound on his neck, he doesn't hide from or avoid her but it is getting worse! Thanks again.
     
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    What species are they and how big is the tank? The separation will need to be permanent. Do you have any photos of the turtle and the tank they're in?
     
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    The tank is 8x2x2.
     
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    We do take them outside for dry time and sun light.
     
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    OK, you have a major problem with your setup, the lids... They all need to come off and stay off as UVB does not penetrate glass at all. Also, turtles cannot have any humidity or condensation build up in their tank... It's imperative that they have open air at all times.

    Another major issue is the aquarium gravel, you'll need to remove all that too and replace it with river sand and calgrit. Any large rocks will need to be removed also.
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    You can cover the tank with steel mesh, however the lids need to remain off. A turtle cannot haul out to bask and dry out in moist air. The humidity will cause your turtles to develop respiratory infections and pneumonia.

    Turtles must have a basking dock.
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    The turtle tank needs a sand and calgrit base free of gravel and rocks. Plants and driftwood are much safer turtle tank decor.
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    It's vital that the tank has no lids on it whatsoever.
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    That is fine and it's recommended that you do so at least 3-5 times/week but they still need access to a basking dock in their tank. Turtles are ectotherms, to deny them a basking dock and heat source is to deny them one of their most basic essential necessities for life.

    The lids need to remain off the tank permanently also.
     
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    They ate both my docks! Got to get new ones! 1 turtle climbs on back end of boat and other has a large rock at other end of tank at the moment.

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  11. Aussiepride83

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    But it's to no benefit because you have no heat lamps for them to warm themselves and your tank has lids on it. You'll need to invest is some quality UVB reptile lighting tubes.
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    This is typical of displacement behaviour. Turtles, believe it or not will vent frustration and boredom much the same as any other captive animal will when kept in a manner that doesn't allow them to act/behave and express themselves normally. I've seen cases where turtles have pulled all the silicone from the joins in their tanks, eaten gravel, ripped air stones from air lines, destroyed the suction cups holding aquarium heaters in place, destroyed aquarium thermometers and various decor.

    A turtle that has its basic needs met and one that's kept in a stimulating natural environment, as close to what its wild counterparts would be in, does not display displacement behaviour.

    I can honestly say that your turtles destroying their docks like that is their way of telling you "we're not happy."